About the show
Marketing sharpness.
Automation firepower.
Most business podcasts pick a lane — brand or ops, growth or systems. We don't. Jab brings the marketing brain: positioning, funnels, creative that actually converts. May brings the automation rigor: the workflows, integrations, and AI stacks that turn that marketing into a machine.
Every week we pick one pillar of running a business — and show you both sides of the coin: the move, and the system that makes the move repeatable.
Your hosts
Jab Siwela
Co-Host
Growth partner for health, wellness, and fitness brands trying to navigate these never ending changes changes in Marketing. Jab and the team will help you build scroll stopping campaigns, processes and systems that connect, resonate, and most importantly convert you leads into customers.
May Zhan
Co-Host
May Zhan is the founder of Venture Voice, an AI and automation consultancy based in Lisbon, Portugal. She designs and builds intelligent workflow systems for founders, agencies, and small businesses — from content pipelines and lead generation engines to multi-agent AI architectures that turn manual work into compounding leverage. Her toolkit spans n8n, Claude, Supabase, and the broader modern automation stack, but her real focus is helping operators see where the bottlenecks actually live.
Before Venture Voice, May spent over a decade across finance, strategy, marketing, and operations, working with companies ranging from early-stage ventures to established firms. That cross-functional background shapes how she approaches automation today: not as a technical exercise, but as a business one. She's known for translating fuzzy goals into precise systems, and for the kind of pragmatic advice that comes from having sat on every side of the table.
Alongside her client work, May co-hosts May Contain Jab with Jab Siwela, a podcast for small business owners navigating AI, automation, and the changing shape of work. She also runs workshops in Lisbon, volunteers with the Lisbon Project supporting community members with career development, and is slowly winning her ongoing battle with European Portuguese.